What do you think about bot in steemit?
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There are actually different kinds of bots, so it would be difficult to say without knowing what kind of bot you want to know about.

The most likely option is that you're referring to bid bots. Bid bots are designed to allow a person to "buy" the vote of another person in exchange for slightly less money than the vote is worth. By sending Steem to a bid bot, a person can a portion of the vote from an account that has a larger vote. 

For instance, if a bid bot has a vote of $10 and four people each send 1 Steem to the bot, they should each get a vote for $2.50. 25% of the vote is taken for curation, so each person is left with $1.87. With the price of Steem today, each person would get 6.2 Steem back if they posted 100% powered up. This number is exceedingly high and most bid bots have switched to a specific percentage return on investment (ROI) so that bidders can't get highly-profitable votes. 

Most voting bots are set up so you send a certain amount of Steem and get a vote back that is a predetermined amount larger. So you could send 1 Steem and get a vote worth $1.4. After curation, the vote is worth $1.05, so you get a 5% ROI. This is assuming the price of Steem doesn't change drastically within the period between when you buy the vote and when it pays out. 

Many voting bots do not give out very high ROIs, and due to the amount that voting bots are used, it's debatable if the use of bots is useful. It takes a lot of resources from the general pool and only distributes a small amount of gain to those who use them. The main gains are going to the voters who sell their votes. Due to this (and other issues) voting bots remain controversial. 

Voting bot owners normally say they're giving people a chance to get exposure for their posts. They also say that it's permissible by the blockchain so they're doing nothing wrong. Some people say they're running a business on the blockchain and that's progress that will help with mass adoption of the Steem chain. Time will tell.

Another type of bot is a notification bot. These send messages to a user when a specific criterion or criteria are met. 

Another type of bot that can be used is an auto-voter bot. These services allow a user to choose authors they want to reward and set established vote values and times per day that author is rewarded. They don't have to be present to cast the vote manually, the bot takes care of it.

tl;dr There are many kinds of bots. Each has a use or purpose. Some people disagree about the benefit of using some of the voting services. Each user must determine for his/herself if voting bots will be used. No controversy has been noted with notification bots. 

It seems to be becoming more and more clear that 'bid bots' are becoming less and less popular - yes they drive investors to Steem, but sometimes at the expense of driving quality content. Often these bots have no quality control and so anyone can upvote themselves to the trending page. There is now becoming more and more people prepared to flag 'bot abuse'.

On the other hand bots which have a community in mind and have some form of quality control are great for growing the community and helping under rated authors. Some bots that I think really benefit the community are:

@Steem-ua - A bot that upvotes users that delegate - higher upvotes can be gained by having a higher Steem-UA score - gained through activities like engaging with the community - a great way to encoruage users to grow, and reward them for it

@busy has a bot that upvotes users who use the #busy tag - again it has growing your account in mind - higher upvotes are reserved for those who have more followers with higher organic Mvests (SP)

Bots like this are helping out the community and encouraging users to grow, while also attracting investors to delegate.

It seems that bots are a nessasary evil here, but in the long run I think there is going to be a shift away from bid bots

I think bots are terrible for steemit (however I do run one myself). Ever since steemit came out, bots started propping out of everywhere and you really got to ask yourself if the upvote you give should be fully based on the content or the fact that they are willing to pay you for an upvote. The fact that people pay money to get upvoted is bizarre to me, and this is generally where the platform takes a downhill fall. However there thankfully are some initiatives to combat this and give the upvotes based on the quality (hey musing is like this!) rather than looking at the profit they can make out of upvoting you. There are also fundamental flaws with bidbots, as the ROI’s are pure rubbish. When they say roi, it’s the liquid as well as the sp, rather than just liquid. So putting in 10 steem into a bidbot that says 110% will not result in you gaining more liquid but rather getting some liquid and some sp. in some ways this is good as it allows you to gain sp rather quickly, instead of powering up.
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It depends there are many kinds of bots in steemit. Especially if it is a bid bot, then some are good and some are bads. Some people like bid bot but some people don't. Besides, there are some other bots also like @steemboard which gives us the information about our achievement on steemit.

But I especially like the gina bot who provide me all the notification from my steemit account. Always keep me inform what is happening on steemit. I really love this bot.

Besides that, there are some other bots like bot-helper, gentle bot, help bot, Cheetah and so on. Bot-helper tracks new stories with the #introduceyourself tag and upvotes them. The @gentlebot looks at all the comments that were posted in the steemit blockchain in the past hour, it votes for a favourite one.

Help bot if anyone asks him any question then it will respond with its best-known answer or direct you in the right direction via links to other Steemit posts.

Cheetah always looks for similar content or copied content. If he found any then he upvoted the post and post a comment with the similar content link.
Cheetah has it's own whitelist and blacklist. If someone repeatedly post copy paste content, then cheetah can put him on his blacklist.
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I think most of the bots are great. A few like @magic8ball and @cleverbot are neat ideas and I love occasionally seeing them respond when I posrt something. One bot that I think is an unsung hero is @tts because converting a post on steemit into audio form would help make steemit more accessible to the blind and visually impaired if there was more community support behind it.
Various types of bots are operating on steemit. Some bots like @intobot are created to assist new users.
Some other bots have other purposes. For example @haikubot searches for haiku in your comments, @grammernazi searches for grammatical mistakes in your posts, @photocontests created by @juliank searches for specific tags like colorfulphotography, animalphotography etc., so that it may upvote those post having those tags.
@cheetah searches for the contents which may be repeated somewhere else. I.e. it searches for the plagiarists contents. If it find any plagiarism in your post, it can downvote you also.
So, these bots can be classified according to their type and purpose-one upvotes contents, one downvote contents and other simply beg for upvotes from you.
These days some rogue people have created some bots which downbot every genuine users of this platform.
One should always aware of the comments made by bots on their posts because their comments may include links which can redirect you to the scammers' sites and steel your password.
But the most important and the most controversial bots are bidbots. These bots are designed for vote selling. You send required amount of sbd or steem to them and in return they upvote you in proportion to your bid amount. Normally they upvote after every 2.4 hours when their voting power reaches to maximum i.e. 100%.
Bidbots owners are always in profit as they receive the sbd and steem much before casting their votes. They also earn curation reward for their upvotes. So, they always gain profit irrespective of the profit of the bid senders.
Many people see them as a bad thing on steem platform. Vote selling is considered unethical and detrimental to the quality control on this platform. Users like @grumpycat forced them to mend their ways. Now many bidbots claims to upvote only quality contents and also putting bad content creators in black lists.
For the perspective of new users bid bots are necessary for this platform as a new users cannot get attention without making his/her post visible without the help of bidbots. As no big whale will promote a quality posts, bidbots will be the only choice for the newbies.
Therefore, bidbots and other bots have become integral part of steemit.
I think bot is actually a very good idea on the Steem platform for people who are Business minded.
A lot of people are on Steemit for different purposes, some are simply for the Business and without the Bots, most of them wouldn't be on the platform.
So, Bots on Steemit are just perfect for the Steemit platform.
I think, like everything else in life, they have their good and their bad sides. Bots are great in giving posts visibility, which will greatly encourage content creators, especially minnows.

However, they are being greatly abused by whales and other steemians alike so their effect is no longer being felt.